Jul 2022

Reminder: BBC's Antiques Roadshow will be filming at Clissold Park on Sunday. bbc.co.uk/programmes/art…

@SLH68141003 @Christo28907011 What would you suggest asking?

@AkashMapara This thread :) x.com/isthemoonblue/…

RT @AkashMapara: @StokeyUpdates Where’s this idea from haha? Do we have any meat-centric restaurants? Schnitzel Forever and Truffle Burger…

@GE0RGYGIRL Love the fries!

@SLH68141003 @Christo28907011 114. It’s at the bottom of the screenshot I attached. The poll is still live here. Happy to have another poll asking vegans and vegetarians specifically about their view. No guarantee of course who’ll respond. x.com/StokeyUpdates/…

Anyone else misses the 73 bendy bus? x.com/selmesbackback…

RT @stokeywheels: @StokeyUpdates That’s odd because the Human Forest bike is outside the allowed parking area I think so surely the renter…

@SLH68141003 @Christo28907011 From some of the comments from various people very recently the impression is that quite a few eateries in the area offer a rather rich selection of vegetarian options and not just ‘one sad afterthought of an option’.

@SLH68141003 @Christo28907011 Do you suggest banning meat from all restaurants, shops and supermarkets? If not, what would you consider to be an acceptable balance of meat and meat-free options for people to pick from? Thanks.

RT @Christo28907011: @StokeyUpdates @auberjeangenie I eat out a lot and try to eat locally + in independents, but struggle on Church St in…

@Christo28907011 @auberjeangenie Out of interest, what’s the ideal in your opinion? X number of meat-free restaurants in Church St for example? X% of non-meat options in every menu in every restaurant in Church St?

@Christo28907011 @auberjeangenie I think it’s also a question of the overall number of restaurants in each street when making any comparison.

@Christo28907011 @auberjeangenie Thanks. I do wonder though given all the names that were mentioned by people in the last hour whether the difference in the number of restaurants you favour is really that significantly different between Church St and the other streets you listed. Any numbers you can share?

@Christo28907011 @auberjeangenie Which gentrified streets are you comparing Chruch St to in this context? Do they have the same number of restaurants overall as Church St?

RT @Christo28907011: @auberjeangenie @StokeyUpdates I do not agree - compared to most gentrified streets Church St is pretty poor - and Blu…

@Christo28907011 Let’s see what others think. I’m curious now! :) x.com/StokeyUpdates/…

Does Church St have a very meat-centric selection of restaurants compared to many other areas in your opinion?

RT @Christo28907011: @StokeyUpdates Church St has a very meat-centric selection of restaurants compared to many areas - some do not offer a…

@Christo28907011 Plenty of vegetarians, vegans and meat eaters live and eat in harmony in Church Street in my view. They all seem to get along fine and I’d like to think accept other people’s food choices… for the most part at least.

@Christo28907011 I like to have the option to choose what I eat and the diversity of many options, which I believe we have to a large extent. I’m not a fan of people trying to make other people feel guilty about they choose to eat, meat in this case. That’s all.

@Christo28907011 How so? What would be the desirable state in your view? Most, if not all the restaurants offer vegetarian and vegan options and quite a few as far as I’m aware. Would you like them to avoid meat altogether? What’s the realistic end goal here?

RT @Christo28907011: @StokeyUpdates No. It really isn’t. Astonishing lack of eco-awareness on Church St. And most burger joints nowadays at…

@Christo28907011 I’d like to think the Bus Gate offsets any negative environmental impact ;) would you ban meat from Church St next? What’s your end goal exactly here? People have a choice and options. Don’t try to impose your worldview on the rest of us please. Cheers.

@Christo28907011 Well, it’s a burger joint, what did you expect? :) Pretty sure the majority of the restaurants in Church St offer a wide range of options that cater for ‘eco-friendly eaters’. Isn’t that the case?

@Christo28907011 @SLH68141003 Crazy idea: You eat what you want to eat, and other people will eat what they want to eat.

“I visited [Stoke Newington] one of London's most underrated neighbourhoods and I can't believe I've never visited before despite living just minutes away” mylondon.news/news/east-lond…

Working my way slowly through the menu over the weekend :) had the Truffle Burger and the Truffalo Chicken. Both very delicious! Very friendly staff and great vibe. Filling a gap in the market that was left empty since Stokey Bears closed a few years ago. Highly recommended. x.com/StokeyUpdates/…

RT @spencebakery: 🏖 We’re having a wee break! 🏖 Our Stoke Newington bakery will be closed next week. Re-opening Tuesday 9 August. Wholesa…

New mural in Kynaston Avenue by local street artist Frankie Strand frankiestrand.com and tamoonz.com x.com/Roger89835988/…

@essexgeez Why? What do you expect widened pavement to look like exactly?

@Love_In_Loveout I thought it was only ‘whitekddle class out of towners’ that call Stoke Newington ‘Stokey’ ;)

@c_r_shaw Not the tidiest. I agree. Maybe won’t look as bad once the double yellow lines are added.

Other new businesses in Stoke Newington Church St that’ll open soon:
- Good Things, Bagel Deli at no. 56 - Store Store, Arts-based social enterprise at no. 154
- Jimmy Fairly Opticians at no. 47 x.com/StokeyUpdates/…

@RantyHighwayman The other thing though, seeing the sign make distract drivers from the Bus Gate signs. I thought initially it’ll be good to slow drivers so they get a chance to read the 7am-7pm restriction, but a ‘priority’ sign may give the wrong impression the Bus Gate isn’t actually there.

@RantyHighwayman What about cyclists? Quite a lot use the road. If the sign says “traffic” rather than “vehicles” I’d think that takes care of that and eastbound vehicles would need to give priority to cyclists. Would that actually work in reality??

@OriginRiddim I meant in general actually. Especially in Clissold Park naturally.

There seem to be more children in Stoke Newington in a Liverpool kit than there are in Arsenal or Spurs kits.

@Love_In_Loveout It’s called a ‘figure of speech’. “A figure of speech is a word or phrase that possesses a separate meaning from its literal definition.” en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Figure_of…

RT @LuminaryBakery: HEY STOKEY! We're on @deilveroo!! You can now order slices of cake, luminary minis, brownies, cookies, scones, pastri…

Splash pad sessions: After every session the splash pad will close for 30min for people to leave and for cleaning before the next session starts. I heard there’s going to be security there as well, presumably only during the first few weeks.

@visitcamberwell The plan is to have a few trees there so not sure if any street furniture will be added on top of that, so not to end up using too much of the new available pavement space. A delicate balancing act, but it doesn’t mean it won’t happen in this case.

@VincentStops Thank you

RT @VincentStops: @StokeyUpdates Surely. It’s only 1 month and there is a good deal of month to month variability. Hackney had 22 collision…

‘The story behind Truffle Burger’ “Tom Bickers left school at 16, is set to marry his childhood sweetheart and has built his thriving burger business from scratch. Now the 29 year old is launching his restaurant in his home town of Stoke Newington” seeyouinstokey.com/post/the-story…

RT @manson_7: @carvalhoCAP @StokeyUpdates @ledavies Just replacing the grass is a fantastically crap option. This is why the world is burni…

@issmith3 I’m familiar with the Stoke Newington LTNs and boundary roads and haven’t seen or heard yet anything to suggest the catastrophe that some people claim is happening. Monitoring data for Stoke Newington is also encouraging and mostly positive. Check it out if you haven’t.

@carvalhoCAP @ledavies But the booking in Clissold is temporary. I don’t think the council would go through all that hassle if it wasn’t deemed to be necessary personally.

@carvalhoCAP @ledavies By the way, as the opening date was always “in time for summer holidays” the delay has been a few days, and luckily not weeks. If a booking system was always going to be implemented, I think it should have been communicated from the start and set expectations ahead of time.

@RosyPosy_kitteh My pleasure. Hope you find a nice place and enjoy your stay in the area.

@carvalhoCAP @ledavies I bet you if the council let the new grass get ruined because too many went in at once (assuming that’s what would happen to the grass), some people who have a go at the council for letting that happen :)

@RosyPosy_kitteh The area is popular so not surprising. Otherwise there’s Premiere Inn in Dalston Lane and Travelodge in Manor House.

@clissoldpeople @jamestcmanning I think he’s just teasing his mates

@VincentStops Are able to share the data for Hackney please? Thanks.

@RosyPosy_kitteh The Brownswood pub near Clissold Park and a 15min walk from Church St also has a guesthouse thebrownswood.co.uk/room-gallery/

@RosyPosy_kitteh The Rose & Crown pub in the heart of Church St has a guesthouse. Highly recommended roseandcrownn16.co.uk/room-gallery/ Also Kingsland Locke in nearby Dalston down the road lockeliving.com/en/london/king…

RT @RosyPosy_kitteh: I want to go to a non residential training in September in #StokeNewington and need a hotel. Never been there or round…

@issmith3 So many myths in one tweet. Congrats. ‘Low-traffic schemes benefit most-deprived Londoners, study finds’ theguardian.com/world/ng-inter… ‘Low-traffic neighbourhoods make roads safer but need a rebrand – report’ theguardian.com/world/2022/jun…

RT @Shomrim: #HateCrime #Antisemitism
#Assault Manor Road #N16 6pm 13 year old #Jewish boy assaulted by 3 youths who threw his hat off &…

RT @Hangouts: An Insider Guide to Stoke Newington: suitcasemag.com/articles/insid…

@ledavies @carvalhoCAP Why is it excluding? Excluding would be a case of telling someone they cannot use it full stop surely. If there are operational/logistical etc. reasons to limit the number of people who can access at one time, I wouldn’t refer to that as exclusion. Booking is open to all.

@GE0RGYGIRL @Trufflelondon Went in just now to have a look. It looks brilliant. Great addition to the street.

@ledavies @carvalhoCAP Out of interest, what would you have done differently? Not have grass in the splash pad? Use fake grass? Let everyone go in and hope the damage to newly planted grass won’t be too bad?

RT @myeastldn: Clissold Park is going to be debuting a new splash park on Monday mylondon.news/news/east-lond…

@ledavies @carvalhoCAP In this case it’s about letting brand new grass establish and get the roots to settle. It will get worn out over time and will need to be maintained to an extent but the idea here is to minimise the stampede’s impact on newly laid out grass.

@Microlambert @RobertWeetman Thanks a lot! Look forward to reading it

@RantyHighwayman @cyclisethecity @MsSFothergill @Microlambert @VincentStops x.com/microlambert/s…

@MsSFothergill @VincentStops Yes. My mistake. So it still sounds like that doesn’t extend to blended crossings though.

@MsSFothergill @VincentStops But it would appear the big question is whether that guidance applies to blended crossings, given the ongoing discussion in the other thread on this topic

RT @DJVIRUSKOOLFM: Alls welcome to come rave with the Roller Coaster Kru Date and time
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RT @samwise_v: As it's the last ever episode today, I made a retro #Neighbours titlescreen-inspired map of my neighbourhood (Stoke Newingto…

@RantyHighwayman @MsSFothergill @Microlambert @VincentStops Which term are you in favour of?

@TheGunnersPub No. Creating a Blended Crossing in Lancell St, Summerhouse Rd, Fleetwood St and Lordship Rd (alleyway) to create continuous pavement along Church Street at those junctions.

@carvalhoCAP That’s possibly due to high demand and everyone in Hackney trying to access it at the same time. Luckily, booking is only for the first summer as the council is explained and won’t be required beyond that. It’ll be a shame to see the new grass ruined if too many people visit.

@mayorofhackney @metecoban92 perhaps something to consider for future blended crossings in the borough to inform partially sighted and blind pedestrians that a cyclist or vehicle may be crossing the pavement t.co/hYtJVmjZbf

@RantyHighwayman @Microlambert @MsSFothergill @VincentStops This is very helpful. Have you seen this specification implemented anywhere?

@Microlambert @MsSFothergill @VincentStops @RantyHighwayman any idea regarding the above please? Ongoing discussion whether blended crossings should include tactile paving given they still provide vehicle or cycle access to a side road, but at the same time is also meant to be a continuous part of the pavement.

@Microlambert @MsSFothergill @VincentStops Good question!

@MsSFothergill @VincentStops Is there a legal requirement to provide tactile paving before roads?

I bet the council has better things to do than manage bookings for a splash pad. The reason given is very clear: “…Ensure the splash pad runs smoothly and protect new grass landscaping….” Anyone complaining about the need to book didn’t read this or is too selfish to care.

@VincentStops Doesn’t the design of a blended crossing need to comply with accessibility laws for urban planning? (Assuming those exist). If so, is it a case that the design isn’t violating such accessibility laws?

RT @clissoldpeople: We understand that all the splash pad sessions for the first week of operation are now fully booked. Check back tomorro…

Down in Bouverie Mews off Bouverie Road near Stoke Newington Church Street x.com/ReelRebelsRadi…

“During its first summer, visitors must book a free 60 or 90 min time slot at the splash pad, which will be open 11am-6pm, 7 days a week. This is to ensure the splash pad runs smoothly and to help protect new grass landscaping around the facility, which has not yet established.” x.com/hackneycouncil…

@old_school_alps @jennyfmorgan @SLH68141003 Full list (and over the years too) here: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u…

RT @hackneycouncil: 🫧🌊 Clissold Park’s incredible new splash pad with its tipping bucket, sprays and fountains will open on Monday 1 Aug.…

RT @jennyfmorgan: @tavmos @SLH68141003 @StokeyUpdates Having just moved into the area I’m really happy there is a butcher, a baker, an opto…

@tavmos @SLH68141003 Of course. There are 120 commercial sites in Church St. Not all of them are going to appeal to everyone. We’re very lucky the commercial vacancy is very low at only 3%. I welcome any new business to the street personally, ‘authentic’ or not. Better than a sad, vacant site any day

RT @chloenelkin: Illyria comes to Clissold Park this week, as @EastLondonShak1 brings their production of Twelfth Night to its leafy stage!…

RT @AbneyParkN16: It was fantastic to welcome some very special guests from @BBC_ARoadshow to Abney yesterday. Look out for our very own…

@Margaret1Brady @MicheleRagusa6 @JamesBurdass @steviethecab @DefundTheLCC @cristo_radio @Tony_Devenish @tonymess14 @Osprey0 @roozie52 @FrankBullitt39 @ETResidents @LondonCookie @JohnJohnStewart @FranklinsSE22 If you visit Wholefoods in Stoke Newington you’ll be pleasantly surprised to see its busy and packed as always. It’s very popular. They even have a dedicated person in charge of Deliveroo orders. Not as dire as you might think. Not because of a ‘Myddleton business owner’ at least

@MicheleRagusa6 @JamesBurdass @steviethecab @DefundTheLCC @cristo_radio @Tony_Devenish @tonymess14 @Osprey0 @roozie52 @FrankBullitt39 @ETResidents @LondonCookie @JohnJohnStewart @FranklinsSE22 Bullied by who? :)

@JamesBurdass @steviethecab @DefundTheLCC @cristo_radio @Tony_Devenish @tonymess14 @Osprey0 @roozie52 @FrankBullitt39 @ETResidents @LondonCookie @MicheleRagusa6 @JohnJohnStewart This is pavement widening. Nothing to do with reduced access. The road is still 2-way and the photo you shared has nothing to do with access.

@JamesBurdass @steviethecab @DefundTheLCC @cristo_radio @Tony_Devenish @tonymess14 @Osprey0 @roozie52 @FrankBullitt39 @ETResidents @LondonCookie @MicheleRagusa6 @JohnJohnStewart I explained I spoke to the store manager in person, showed him the screenshot who confirmed it wasn’t sent from him. What other proof do you expect? Do YOU have proof it’s genuine? Do you believe everything you find online? Give Wholefoods a call or pay them a visit to verify.

@stokeygurl I would imagine this is the criteria when the council inspects a site of a proposed Shop Front Trading Licence to assess if there’ll be sufficient pavement space for all the scenarios you listed. See here: drive.google.com/file/d/1BudO-n…

@JamesBurdass @steviethecab @DefundTheLCC @cristo_radio @Tony_Devenish @tonymess14 @Osprey0 @roozie52 @FrankBullitt39 @ETResidents @LondonCookie @MicheleRagusa6 @JohnJohnStewart Also, the claim I responded to was about vehicle access to Wholefoods, which as I explained is incorrect as there’s 24/7 vehicle access from Stoke Newington High St. Try it.

@JamesBurdass @steviethecab @DefundTheLCC @cristo_radio @Tony_Devenish @tonymess14 @Osprey0 @roozie52 @FrankBullitt39 @ETResidents @LondonCookie @MicheleRagusa6 @JohnJohnStewart I actually showed this screenshot in person to the Church Street Wholefoods manager when it started circulating online and guess what? He didn’t recognise it and suspected it’s a fake that didn’t originate from the shop. Before you share it - verify it!

RT @FionaCandlin: Delighted that @mildmayclub has been awarded an #EverydayHeritage grant from @HistoricEngland We're going to be doing a…

@JamesBurdass @steviethecab @DefundTheLCC @cristo_radio @Tony_Devenish @tonymess14 @Osprey0 @roozie52 @FrankBullitt39 @ETResidents @LondonCookie @MicheleRagusa6 @JohnJohnStewart Not true. You CAN drive to Wholefoods 24/7 in fact. You access any time from Stoke Newington High Street and can even park in Wilmer Place carpark right next to it! :) coming from the west between 7am-7pm you’ll need to drive to the High St rather than Church St. Very simple.

RT @ZackEiseman: Stoke Newington when there is only one £8 loaf of bread left in Whole Foods

@HighburyPenguin @MsSFothergill @VincentStops This is great, thanks! Any links to other plans as part of the ongoing and planned work please?

RT @HighburyPenguin: @StokeyUpdates @MsSFothergill @VincentStops Understand that the aim is to prioritise pedestrians. Found the design…

@HighburyPenguin @MsSFothergill @VincentStops Because the whole point is to create a continuous pavement to prioritise pedestrians. Quite a bit of literature about blended crossings online if you have a look in case you’re interested to understand the rationale behind the idea.

@HighburyPenguin @MsSFothergill @VincentStops Where do you see that it was removed?

@HighburyPenguin @MsSFothergill @VincentStops The idea is that the cyclists will be the ones stopping before they continue onto the ‘pavement’ when a pedestrian is walking there. That’a what blended crossing is all about. Same with vehicles when they are in streets with vehicle access.

@imagegardentrax @JoeStephenson96 Third Spoons to open and the oldest surviving by the way

@HighburyPenguin @MsSFothergill @VincentStops “Blended crossings are designed to slow down vehicles when entering or exiting side roads and encourage vehicles to give way to pedestrians crossing the road, reinforcing the rules of the Highway Code.” Same for cyclists in this case.

@kate_revere It’s great seeing the transformation and the speed in which it’s happening.

@kate_revere any idea if blended crossing was considered for Barn St? Seems ideal to me given it’s a cul-de-sac and a school street.

Person A: “the Bus Gate is killing local businesses! We must support local businesses!” Also person A: “Greedy local businesses are going to take over the widened pavement!” 🤷

@Microlambert @ktchnprvsns Possibly, though is nighttime traffic at a level that won’t allow one side to give priority to the other? I don’t know but wonder if you’d ever get more than 3-4 vehicles waiting at a time for the road to clear if oncoming traffic had priority.

@MsSFothergill @VincentStops Is that usually part of the specification of a blended crossing? Any examples please? Is it a legal requirement for a blended crossing? Thanks.

@wchabitus @Pret Perhaps it’s to discourage people from spending half a day there with a laptop.

@VincentStops @MsSFothergill Is that part of the specification of a ‘blended crossing’ where the whole idea is to create continuous pavement and prioritise pedestrians?

RT @hackneycouncil: We’re going to install 675 new bike hangars in the borough over the next four years - doubling what we have at the mome…

RT @wchabitus: @Pret why is the toilet in your stoke newington shop ALWAYS OUT OF ORDER?

@Roger89835988 @ktchnprvsns I agree though I don’t know if that small bit of the road will be able to handle any more signs! :)

RT @roseandcrown16: #theroseandcrown #roseandcrownn16 #quiznight #pubquiz #quiz #prizes #quizteam #stokenewingtonchurchstreet #stokenewingt…

@ktchnprvsns By the way, it’s interesting that with the temporary reduced width of the road by the bus gate where the blended crossing is taking place in Lordship Rd, the traffic is flowing just fine during the day as far as I can tell. I wonder if it’s the same at night with more traffic.

RT @QuinnLondonLtd: Hackney and the @AbneyParkN16 held a number of workshops with local schools and community groups last year designing fo…

@ktchnprvsns I think there could be an argument for that in the future if the traffic level is such that you won’t get traffic building up on one side of the Bus Gate.

@ktchnprvsns Anything you think can be done?

@ktchnprvsns Yes, though I doubt you’ll still be able to have 2-way traffic there unfortunately. It’s the point in Church St with the narrowest road AND narrowest pavement.

@kate_revere @carvalhoCAP “Sociopetal spaces — designed to bring people together. Sociofugal spaces — designed to minimise contact between people” @social_archi/sociopetal-and-sociofugal-spaces-f8e3f18880e8">medium.com/@social_archi/…

@kate_revere @carvalhoCAP I think it’s a great thing and part of making a street conducive of social interactions like a quick chat. I read once that supermarkets are/were designed with narrow aisles to deter conversations and maintain the flow. A street is obviously different and should accommodate both.

Wider pavement will make this possible: “Al fresco dining boost for businesses - Temporary changes, brought in to help pubs, cafes and restaurants take advantage of the warm weather and operate outside, are extended and will be made permanent next year.” gov.uk/government/new…

@carvalhoCAP @kate_revere I think that one of the small benefits will be the ability to stand and talk to people briefly without blocking the pavement, as is the case today in certain sections of the street. Especially outside Kate’s shop!! ;)

RT @kate_revere: So happy to be having pavement widening outside my shop.

Additional pavement widening will be on the south side between Lancell St and Wilmer Place (opposite Wholefoods) and between Bouverie Rd and Abney Park (north side). There’ll be Blended Crossing in Fleetwood St, Summerhouse Rd, Lancell St and Lordship Rd. x.com/StokeyUpdates/…

@carvalhoCAP @ledavies @clissoldpeople I find it very odd that someone would think it’s ok to dump a bike in the middle of the pavement. There are usually so many other options, and it sometimes looks deliberate or simply sense of entitlement to hop off the drop the bike with complete disregard for other people

@carvalhoCAP @clissoldpeople Perhaps it’s not in their interest to offer too many financial rewards that’ll eat into their revenue. As long as people use the service and they have a contract with the council, why do anything about it? Hopefully the council will flag this if continues (@metecoban92)

@carvalhoCAP @ledavies @clissoldpeople If riders made an effort to park reasonably it would be less of a problem but too many in my view are simply dumped in the middle of pavements, and you start seeing them also dumped around the park. Whatever happened to the Boris Bikes you had to dock??

@carvalhoCAP @clissoldpeople But as you say, if most riders use Google Maps to navigate there’s no way they’ll know where the parking bays are, and even if they knew where the handful of them are, as I mentioned earlier, there are too many benefits to ride to your destination rather the walk from a bay.

@ledavies @clissoldpeople @carvalhoCAP Any similar incentive to park Lime bikes in a bay?

Very impressed with all the work Truffle Burger are putting into 156 Stoke Newington Church Street to transform the former Pronto Pizza takeaway site into potentially one of the most impressive interiors in Church Street. Look forward to seeing it when it’s complete!

@clissoldpeople @carvalhoCAP Still curious as to why someone would park in the bay, given the are so few of them around and it may mean you’ll need to walk 10-15min to your destination if not more. Not an appealing option late ar night, when it’s raining or very hot.

@Yashman67 @jennyfmorgan @SLH68141003 @nizecab @unluckycab @TheLTDA “experiences are more reliable than what people tell you” - but you are TELLING us about YOUR experiences :) Read this yet? Researchers reviewed 70 road space reallocation cases, including testimonials from 200 traffic engineers and planners: thecityfix.com/blog/traffic-e….

@Yashman67 @jennyfmorgan @SLH68141003 @nizecab @unluckycab @TheLTDA Well, if you are suspicious of data then you can only go by your subjective view of the world around you. Did you know for example that retailers hugely overestimate how many customers drive to their shop? That’s THEIR perception. We all have our perceptions. Not always correct.

@Yashman67 @jennyfmorgan @SLH68141003 @nizecab @unluckycab @TheLTDA Actually, I don’t know. How do YOU know that? Sounds like it all based on your hunch at the end of the day. You don’t trust and believe formal monitoring data so you are left with your own subjective observations. Have you read studies about traffic evaporation at least?

@Yashman67 @jennyfmorgan @SLH68141003 @nizecab @unluckycab @TheLTDA If you’re sceptical of any data being published by “the establishment” then I suppose all you have to go by is your subjective experience. I suppose you probably don’t even think that car usage should be reduced overall, because the data supporting that is also “dodgy”.

@Yashman67 @jennyfmorgan @SLH68141003 @nizecab @unluckycab @TheLTDA Why are you assuming that all the drivers that used to take the closed roads are now all using the other ones? As I explained before, traffic doesn’t behave like water in pipes. Some drivers change their behaviour, avoid certain areas, change driving times etc.

@jennyfmorgan @Yashman67 @SLH68141003 @nizecab @unluckycab @TheLTDA Apart from a few months ago when there was roadwork in Green Lanes/Lordship Park, I have yet to see heavy traffic in Green Lanes along Clissold Park, which is beyond what was always the case more or less during rush hour. Because of the Bus Gate some people perceive it as worse.

@Yashman67 @jennyfmorgan @SLH68141003 @nizecab @unluckycab @TheLTDA Have you read the data monitoring report report from March 2022? It describes the increase and decrease of traffic along the various roads. s3-eu-west-2.amazonaws.com/commonplace-cu… it’s a good stating point for a discussion, though it’s only 6 months in. Behaviour changes take time.

@Yashman67 @jennyfmorgan @SLH68141003 @nizecab @unluckycab @TheLTDA You didn’t provide any evidence such as air quality monitoring data to support your claim that this is what’s in fact happening. That’s quite a baseless claim you’re making. My point was that any increase so far is minimal according to the last monitoring data from March 2022.

@jennyfmorgan @Yashman67 @StokeyCab @SLH68141003 @nizecab @unluckycab @TheLTDA @BrendaPuech @HackneyLivingSt I know. I was pointing out the target is not for everyone to ditch cars as that’s not realistic. It’s about reducing the dependency on cars, mainly for short journeys.

@Yashman67 @jennyfmorgan @StokeyCab @SLH68141003 @nizecab @unluckycab @TheLTDA But surely plenty of other people, especially those making short journeys by car at the moment, can. That’s the point. You should enjoy the road by car once enough people who have the choice conclude that driving is sometimes simply not worth the hassle.

@AAttfield @clissoldpeople That bucket is going to make many children happy for many years to come.

@jennyfmorgan @Yashman67 @StokeyCab @SLH68141003 @nizecab @unluckycab @TheLTDA Clearly that’s not an option for everyone and all the time but if enough people that can genuinely consider alternatives to a car, especially for short journeys, will do that we’ll have less vehicles on the roads at the same time. Current car usage surely isn’t sustainable.

@IanPethick @AlexSherston I agree 100%. A High St pub in a busy junction is a very different proposition.

RT @IanPethick: @StokeyUpdates @AlexSherston Believe the people that have taken it on also run the Marquess Tavern in Canonbury. An excelle…

RT @AAttfield: Testing time at the new splash park ⁦@clissoldpeople⁩ ⁦@StokeyUpdates⁩ Just in time for the school hols. https://t.co/prRm…

@Yashman67 @jennyfmorgan @StokeyCab @SLH68141003 @nizecab @unluckycab @TheLTDA “It shows that traffic does not behave like water moving through pipes, finding an easier path as another narrows. Instead it is a force of human choice, driven by people making all sorts of different decisions when driving conditions change.” londonlivingstreets.com/2019/07/11/eva….

@manson_7 I seriously doubt it’s regulated. It’s just there. You have an idea for the next one?? :)

@Yashman67 @jennyfmorgan @StokeyCab @SLH68141003 @nizecab @unluckycab @TheLTDA As someone once described it, traffic doesn’t behave like water in pipes. That’s been shown in academic studies. When you restrict access you don’t simply get all the excess flowing into other places. That’s the fundamental thing some people don’t seem to get.

@Yashman67 @jennyfmorgan @StokeyCab @SLH68141003 @nizecab @unluckycab @TheLTDA Again, you didn’t take air quality monitoring date so you’re only guessing here. Also, the idea is what in the longer term (not after a few weeks and months) when more and more people avoid taking the car out for a short journey pollution will hopefully be less serious.

@Yashman67 @jennyfmorgan @StokeyCab @SLH68141003 @nizecab @unluckycab @TheLTDA You’ll be surprised. Some people LOVE driving their car, even if it’s a short journey. That’s obviously not the case for everyone. The view is that alternatives for such short journeys become safer and viable more people will consider them.

@Yashman67 @jennyfmorgan @StokeyCab @SLH68141003 @nizecab @unluckycab @TheLTDA Bottom line, the expected positive impact as far as getting more and more people to think twice before they go into a car for a short journey isn’t going to happen overnight. Ask yourself how many drivers around you are driving a short distance. Some should consider alternatives.

@Yashman67 @jennyfmorgan @StokeyCab @SLH68141003 @nizecab @unluckycab @TheLTDA There are hundreds of LTNs in London. You’re ‘monitoring’ all of them? :)

@Yashman67 @jennyfmorgan @StokeyCab @SLH68141003 @nizecab @unluckycab @TheLTDA How do you know? You’re not a human traffic monitoring machine :) I get you don’t see empty streets of course, and maybe in some cases there has been a certain increase in traffic, but your subjective impression isn’t a way of determine if evaporation does or doesn’t happen.

@Yashman67 @jennyfmorgan @StokeyCab @SLH68141003 @nizecab @unluckycab @TheLTDA The main issue are the short journeys, which are less than 2 miles. That’s a relatively short distance that surely doesn’t always require a car. There’ll be far less congestion once enough people avoid those short car journeys. It won’t happen overnight.

@Yashman67 @jennyfmorgan @StokeyCab @SLH68141003 @nizecab @unluckycab @TheLTDA Who is to determine what’s “essential”? That’s extremely subjective. No local authority will want to start getting into that and tell people what’s considered “essential”. The Bus Gate in Stoke Newington by the way is open to Blue Badge registered cars, in case you weren’t aware.

@ElenaEloizidou3 @maariaris @eoinmauricedaly The Daniel Defoe changed owners and names a couple of times and is now the Clarence Tavern, which feels to me at least more like a restaurant than a pub clarencetavern.com. The Daniel Defoe in comparison was definitely more ‘old school’ and kids-free I think.

@StokeyCab @Yashman67 @jennyfmorgan @SLH68141003 @nizecab @unluckycab @TheLTDA Why do you say that? Any evidence of that? Traffic calming measures are a level playing field that don’t favour people who can afford an electric car or paying to use a road or drive through a filter. It doesn’t matter how rich you are - you cannot use your car. Isn’t it great?

@jennyfmorgan @Yashman67 @SLH68141003 @nizecab @unluckycab @TheLTDA I was shocked to read a 2015 TfL study that a third of car journeys in London are less than 2miles! Where do people drive such short distance?? Is a car really the only way they can make such short journey? Surely that’s not the case for all of them.

@Yashman67 @jennyfmorgan @SLH68141003 @nizecab @unluckycab @TheLTDA I can only comment on the area I know well and accept traffic claiming measures may not be as effective everywhere. In Stoke Newington, after 10 months, my personal view (for what it’s worth) is that the negative impact of the Bus Gate has been minimal with considerable benefits.

@Yashman67 @jennyfmorgan @SLH68141003 @nizecab @unluckycab @TheLTDA Obviously that was meant to be “I was NOT going to..”. I find it fascinating that some people who object to LTNs refer to photos of normal traffic levels in a ‘boundary road’ as “selective” while photos of congestion are quickly hailed as “compelling evidence” :)

@jennyfmorgan @Yashman67 @SLH68141003 @nizecab @unluckycab @TheLTDA Some people seem to think that behaviour change happens overnight and that a day after a Bus Gate is introduced you magically have less cars on the road. It’ll take a while for so many SHORT car journeys (less than 2miles) to be reduced as alternatives become viable. Let’s see!

RT @olvrlstr: @OMGee_e @GoingMedieval @blkaryan @drooga @sheriadidthat Ate at a place called Schnitzel Forever Stoke Newington way, and tha…

RT @mcandidate: don't see kids in the pub because I don't live in Stoke Newington

Stuck my head into the coach and horses and only 3 people inside. You wouldn’t think they were open by looking inside.Looks like the popular outside seating is gone for good. Very odd decision to get rid of them as the pub as no garden.

@LFB_HACKNEY @LFBEnfield That’s ok. We saw them set out a few min after we visited the station. My comment was about the fact they were surprised to hear the open day was today :) they were attending a lecture upstairs at 12:30 and suggested we came around 2.

@Yashman67 @jennyfmorgan @SLH68141003 @nizecab @unluckycab @TheLTDA “But in many cases, individual drivers changed not only their routes but their departure times, “flattening” out peaks in travel times. Other drivers changed their destinations..” thecityfix.com/blog/traffic-e….

@Yashman67 @jennyfmorgan @SLH68141003 @nizecab @unluckycab @TheLTDA Ultimately, there’s empirical evidence that once you make using a car less convenient, some people will start considering alternatives and you get a reduction in car usage, mainly for short journeys. Many car journeys in London are less than 2(!) miles. That’s crazy.

@Yashman67 @jennyfmorgan @SLH68141003 @nizecab @unluckycab @TheLTDA Here’s the first monitoring data report six months after the Bus Gate and surrounding LTN filters were installed on Sep 20th 2021. s3-eu-west-2.amazonaws.com/commonplace-cu…

@Yashman67 @jennyfmorgan @SLH68141003 @nizecab @unluckycab @TheLTDA What would you say is the difference between before the Bus Gate? An increase in traffic was expected naturally, but I haven’t seen yet evidence of constant heavy congestion along those roads, which is significantly worse than the usual rush hour traffic before the Bus Gate.

@Yashman67 @jennyfmorgan @SLH68141003 @nizecab @unluckycab @TheLTDA I was going to stand there all day every day and that’s what I observed on a Monday 8:30am. I didn’t conduct a thorough research and simply pointed out that on that one occasion at that time of the day I was surprised to see all was normal and not crazy busy. That’s all.

@maariaris @eoinmauricedaly Which pub was that please?

TODAY! x.com/LFB_HACKNEY/st…

RT @Roger89835988: @StokeyUpdates A carriageway-narrowing / footway-widening / traffic-calming / unauthorised traffic-deterring street re-d…

@Yashman67 @jennyfmorgan @SLH68141003 @nizecab @unluckycab @TheLTDA For example, 15-20 vehicles waiting at the traffic lights in Lordship Park/Green Lanes and Green Lanes/Church St during the morning rush hour wasn’t that different pre-Bus Gate. I was expecting to see 50 cars that morning based on some people’s accounts of how bad it is now! :) x.com/StokeyUpdates/…

@Yashman67 @jennyfmorgan @SLH68141003 @nizecab @unluckycab @TheLTDA Unless there’s the odd roadwork, those roads are always wide open when I use them. Perhaps I’m just lucky :) especially Green Lanes along Clissold Park. I approach them expecting heavy traffic and always pleasantly surprised to see it’s hardly ever the case. No more than before.

@Yashman67 @jennyfmorgan @SLH68141003 @nizecab @unluckycab @TheLTDA Thanks. I use those roads occasionally at various times of the day and haven’t experienced any significant difference personally. People have different experiences clearly. The next monitoring data report will be published in Sep. Will be interesting to see the actual numbers.

@Yashman67 @jennyfmorgan @SLH68141003 @nizecab @unluckycab @TheLTDA Do you use the ‘boundary roads’ regularly? If so, how much more significant congestion have you experienced in Manor Rd, Lordship Park, Green Lanes, Newington Green, Matthias Rd, Boleyn Rd, Crossway and Stoke Newington High St since Sep 20th 2021 when the Bus Gate was installed?

@jaycey_ What do you know about that intention by the way? From what I read about the scheme, it’s as much about supporting local businesses that could benefit from new outdoor seating for example as it is about space for pedestrians. Whoever said it was purely for pedestrians? #alfresco

@jaycey_ I don’t understand what’s your issue. If there’s sufficient pavement space to benefit local businesses AND pedestrians and the council’s officers conclude the two can co-exist in the same pavement space given available width, then what’s the problem exactly?

@jaycey_ It’s down to the council mate: “All Shop Fronts applicants will receive a visit from a Shop Front Service Officer to carry out a measurement at the premises and to assess the suitability of having a shop front licence at this location and the appropriate m2 fee for space used.”

RT @jaycey_: @StokeyUpdates So you too are all for the new wider pavement being taken over for business?

@HUChrisLL @dhplumstead @PaulOBrienArch (Some of the) A10 from south to north: Shoreditch High St, Kingsland Road, Kingsland High St, Stoke Newington Road, Stoke Newington High St, Stamford Hill, High Road

@jaycey_ Ever heard of a ‘Shop Front Trading Licence’? hackney.gov.uk/markets-shop-f…

RT @spencebakery: @jaycey_ @StokeyUpdates Greedy businesses? Hardly. The council charges us all rent for every square foot of pavement we u…

@WestReservoir @mayorofhackney any update whether this project in the West Reservoir is going ahead and rough timeline please? Thank you. london.gov.uk/what-we-do/env…

@clissoldpeople @Middletonfox Will there be an opening ceremony?? (@mayorofhackney)

@OrchardWenlock @Middletonfox @clissoldpeople Consultation will take place in the autumn

RT @Middletonfox: Saw plenty of excited children at Clissold Park today watching the new splash pad being tested. It looks as if it will be…

@VincentStops As advertising screens aren’t planned for Stoke Newington Church Street’s widened pavements as far as I’m aware I still don’t understand what point you’re trying to make here. Can you explain please?

@VincentStops Street trees are planned there thankfully, not an advertising screen.

@CKE1977 Yes. There would have been very narrow space on the old pavement

RT @tsivisharett: Playing at Poster bar in Stoke Newington tomorrow 6-9pm with Fernando Lazzari on bass. Hope to see some familiar fa…

RT @IanPethick: @bjornksandberg @StokeyUpdates Was in there at around 10.30pm on a Sat evening a few weeks ago, 3 of us in there. What is t…

@bobbyandmog It’s not. It’s buses, bicycles and Blue Badge holders (all local Blue Badge holders can apply to exempt one vehicle from the bus gate filter).

@clissoldpeople @willnorman @mayorofhackney @metecoban92 They weren’t parked. Traffic was slow towards the High St because of the roadwork in Manor Rd.

RT @kate_revere: @StokeyUpdates This looks fantastic, can’t wait for the pavement to be widened outside my shop.

@HotDogFrog We have plenty of those! :)

@AlexSherston Thanks. That’s sad. I don’t think it’s the trendy pub the new owners thought they were delivering that would attract the people that go to the Jolly Butchers and Three Crowns nearby.

@HotDogFrog Congrats and welcome to the neighbourhood!

@TheFox89688362 That’s a bargain around here! Cheers.

@TheFox89688362 Not really though. The Highway authority is either TfL (Red route) or the local authority (yellow lines). There’s nothing ‘public” about it. Traffic calming measures aren’t perfect, and some of the issues you raise need to addressed. What’s the alternative in your view?

@TheFox89688362 What did you expect? :) Hackney is the London borough with the highest proportion of streets with an LTN (70%!). Islington is in 3rd place with 43%. If you drive in these boroughs these days you should expect to face LTNs everywhere.

@theschoolcook There’s been consultation in recent weeks about some form of street market in Church Street.

@TheFox89688362 1. Consultation isn’t a referendum. Common misconception. 2. We don’t live in Switzerland where every decision it put to a public vote. 3. Decisions are made by the democratically elected local authority. Not everyone is going to like every decisions.

@hello_antonia Is there a dedicated parking bay there?

@TheFox89688362 Well, it’s not ‘my’ LTN you know. I guess you could say it’s the borough’s LTN as it’s been implemented by its elected officials, which were actually elected not too long ago. It’s their agenda and they won the elections. Democracy in action and all that, you know.

@GE0RGYGIRL @SophieCam Perhaps they are all trying to get the work done before their people go on holiday :) broadband infrastructure work in the area has been going on for months. Thames Water always seem to do something, somewhere in the area.

@TheFox89688362 @TfL @MayorofLondon @SadiqKhan @hackney_cycling @EvanDriscoll10 @HackneyAbbott @hackneygazette @horrendoushack1 @indieHackney @ioisours There’s also Thames Water roadwork right now in the middle of Church Street before the Bus Gate, so even if the Bus Gate wasn’t there now it wouldn’t really solve the gridlock in the High St as you might think :) as someone who lives here I can tell you this gridlock is rare

@SophieCam @GE0RGYGIRL And I suppose the companies prefer to schedule the work in the summer when it’s dry-ish so the summer rightly feels like peak roadwork season.

@StokeyLTN OMG! Not only different colour, but they are also using different bricks for the blended crossing!! Shock, horror! :) x.com/StokeyUpdates/…

@GE0RGYGIRL There’s been 2-way traffic as usual in Church St while the pavement widening is taking place. I didn’t see it having any impact on traffic flow. It’s the Thames Water work in Church St/Defoe Rd that closed one lane and added temporary traffic lights. Impact still very minimal.

@StokeyLTN I think the difference in colour is actually intentional to make people appreciate just how narrow the pavement was before and not take the widening for granted ;)

@CKE1977 I’d guess most roadwork is scheduled for the summer months, rather than the winter, unless it’s emergency or unexpected.

@CKE1977 Broadband?

@denisoconnor Yes. I wasn’t expecting to still be able to small the paint two months after it reopened.

RT @seeyouinstokey: Going into the weekend with some Stoke Newington newness - there’s been a lot opening over the last few months with mor…

@bjornksandberg The Coach & Horses in my opinion established very good reputation for its Thai kitchen.

@c_r_shaw No clue. Sorry.

@bjornksandberg Their Thai kitchen was very popular. Different menu now.

@bjornksandberg It was very busy on match days. I wonder why they got rid of the screens. It didn’t have such detrimental effect years ago when the Rose & Crown got rid of theirs.

@CKE1977 It’s two Thames Water spots. No idea if the work is related. One in Church St/Defoe Rd and another in Manor Rd/Stamford Hill. Pavement widening work in Church St has had very little if any impact on traffic from my observation. Also some broadband digging in some side streets.

@decath10n Been there a couple of times since it reopened and something feels ‘off’ about it. The brand new, somewhat cheap-looking furniture is off-putting. There was good buzz about it, even during weekdays in the afternoon when it wasn’t busy. Also no screens or outdoor seating now.

RT @decath10n: @StokeyUpdates I did go in for the launch night with 'free food and drinks' and was ignored for almost 2 hours before I left…

@oshea369 But the cost of a pint hasn’t increased drastically since the pub closed about 8 months ago before reopening 6 months later under new ownership. Nearby pubs are as busy as before. My fear was that once it reopens it won’t be able to recreate the way it was. Feels plastic now.

@semihhattat Once you start making concessions for different scenarios and remove traffic restrictions it’ll be never ending task to consider requests and judge. Roadwork happens. There’s also Thames Water roadwork right now in the middle of Church St! :) you want more traffic there too?

I worry the Coach & Horses has become since it reopened a sad, empty pub. It was lively and busy before. Hopefully things pick up in the evenings, especially during the weekend. What do other people think?? Is it only like that when I happen to look in?

@semihhattat But the traffic in your photo is going eastbound towards the High St, with the bottleneck further up. The Bus Gate is way behind it. What difference would it make if the Bus Gate wasn’t restricting through traffic? All those cars and buses would go in the opposite direction?

@Microlambert And during a historical heatwave!

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@spk_n16 The blended crossing in Lordship Road is also progressing quickly and looks only a couple of days from completion.

@spk_n16 Indeed. At this rate it looks like this section of the pavement widening will be completed by early next week if not sooner.

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Scaffolding drill - The soundtrack of Stoke Newington

@LC1bully Thank you for the detailed and well articulated response. Good day.

@LC1bully What about them? It’s Hackney. Part of life sadly. Always have been. What connection are you attempting to make here and what’s the scientific basis for assuming causality between street crime and one single contributing factor?

@LC1bully Please tell the ‘resident’ there are 120 commercial properties in Stoke Newington Church St, and the vacancy rate is at a remarkable low of 3%. 4 new businesses are about to open. 3 of the 4 sites that are vacant have been closed for years before any LTN. Why the panic?

@LC1bully So someone just told you 6 businesses closed? Where? Even if that’s true, businesses close every day for many different reasons such as owner retires, moves away, dies, the business is run poorly, high rent and operational costs force it to close, trouble finding staff etc. etc.

@LC1bully You stated “6 businesses have shut”. I’m simply asking which 6 businesses. Are you able to provide their names or street they are in please? Otherwise, what is this claim based on?

@LC1bully Which businesses closed?

RT @daveybuoy: @StokeyUpdates @StokeySye I heard that Harvest had taken it and we’re going to run a vintage clothing store. That was earlie…

@StokeySye @daveybuoy Yes. Curious to see if it’s going to be ‘vintage’ shop or more a tatty secondhand stuff you often see on display in the street.

@realnickperry That’s the only reason I could think of but still wonder why moving it after 10 months. Did someone from the council just realised that and asked to move it?? Too many people complaining they didn’t notice the sign in time to make a left turn maybe??

@RantyHighwayman @thenewlove @ShowMeASignBryn Would that be a valid reason to consider when it comes to sign placement? That restaurant has been closed for nearly 2 months by the way, though they may have put in the request before that I suppose.

@carvalhoCAP :))